These are the reasons Senator Lesil McGuire feels that we need SB24.
She is claiming that our logbooks may soon go away and that SB24 may prevent them from going away. Our ADF&G has only been using logbooks for the past few years, so how did they manage our fisheries before logbooks? I think most people will agree that we were able to manage our fisheries before logbooks. The truth is that our fisheries are currently being managed today
much the same way they were managed before logbooks. In the past our ADF&G collected information from many sources and then used it at our Alaska Board of Fish meetings to help make regulations. Today they basically still do that same thing, while attempting to claim that logbooks have somehow helped "some people" believe the data a little better. I watched the logbook program be created and it was not created to help the ADF&G manage any fishery. This logbook idea was generated by people who would not be required to fill them out. It was an attempt to create problems for people other than the creators of the logbooks. The logbook concept of better management was then later dumped on by everyone else as a selling point.
My point is that logbooks were concevied as a deliberate inconvenance for people which the creators did not like. Alaska's fisheries management functioned much the same before and after logbooks. Since I see logbooks as being a very small issue, why would
Senator McGuire desire to create a very large issue like a new service board, because of them?
This service board / logbook goal seems to make very little sense to me.
Senator McGuire also feels that SB24 will somehow allow us to attempt to move guide licensing from ADF&G to Commerce, in order to allow guides to control regulations better and get better enforcement. This assumption appears to be claiming that the move from ADF&G to Commerce would somehow give guides more control of sport fish regulations. I do not understand this connection. How can a commerce connection somehow get sportfish guides around our Alaska Board of Fish? Is a service board going to send its finding to the Alaska Board of Fish and expect
the board to ajust fisheries allocations and regulations according to the service board requests. Anyone believeing this is dreaming. Sport fish guides really don't care about all the thousands regulations everyone is dreaming up. Sure it would be nice to make all those
regulations go the way guides want them to go but what guides really care about is WHO GETS THE FISH? Currently our Board of Fish decides this issue within fish allocations and a new service board would have little more and maybe less sway on the board than all the guides who stand before it and tell them what they want. Sportfish guides really don't care about jumping from one agency to another in an attempt to get more sway on guide regulations. The main reason is because that is not going to effect the Board of Fish in getting themmore fisheries allocations for sport fish users. Guides have been the main element out there supporting the public's right to access their own common use fisheries and that means that guides are the number one force out there standing up against the entire commercial fishing industry. Why would the public want guides to crawl away into the Commerce Department and forget about the Board of Fish?
Sportfish guides are the only thing out there currently preventing commercial fishing from taking over all the fish in Alaska!
Senator McGuire also feels that SB24 will somehow get us better fisheries enforcement and that is one giant leap which I cannot follow. We get better enforcement of regulations because enforcement gets more money. How would enforcement somehow get more money with guides jumping from ADF&G to Commerce?Sport fish guides are not as concerned about controlling guide regulations as they are about getting the sport fishing public allocated
more fish by the Alaska Board of Fish. It would be very hard to convince any guide that they would somehow get more enforcement funding just because we have created a new service board. Both the commerce and enforcement reasoning for a new service board, make very little sense to me.
Senator McGuire also feels that SB24 would somehow address the Bandit Guiding issue.
We are talking about the enforcement of current guiding regulations and there are only two reason we currently have people bandit guiding. One reason is that we lack funding to hire people to catch bandit guides and the other is that bandit guides see all the meaningless requirements
out there trying to stop them from earning a living guiding and they just say "the stuff is crazy and I'm not going to play the game they want to play with a stacked deck".
I have been filling out licenses and permits for thrity five years now and I understand how these guys think because most of it involves meaningless paperwork where the average person can make no connect between the pile of paperwork and something getting better.
I can understand why someone would be left wanting to just avoid all the paperwork. Since the paperwork is not likely to go away, the only real way left to stop bandit guides is additional funding to catch them and I cannot see a new service board creating additional
funding.. Is the Senator claiming that the Alaska Legislature will see a new service board and automatically then say "We will now send additional enforcement funding to this board" ? If anyone can make this connection, please send me the information.
If all we have to do is create a new service board to receive additional enforcement funding, we really need to know how that one works.I personally find it very hard to believe this increased funding / service board concept.
Senator McGuire also feels that our federal government will attempt even more taking-overs of our fisheries if we do not try to create more agencies to manage our fisheries. This fear of federal fisheries take-over is being generate becausethe federal government has taken giant "illegal leaps" as it attempts to invade Alaska fisheries management. The fed. has taken these leaps because it believe's that Alaska isn't currently fair enough to its residents. The reason for the Senator's fear
is because she has not seen these leaps completely tested within our courts. I believe that in the end, the fed. will be forced to live up to our Alaska Statehood Contract and that contract forces the fed. to agree that all of our fisheries, wildlife and waters shall be equally shared with common use, to all of our citizens and without limited entry to any fishery. The fed. may
twist and turn as it try's to enforce a limited entry halibut program on Alaska but in the end it must fail, at least Alaska's part anyway. The fed. signed the contract at Statehood with Alaska and it is just a matter of time and money before it is forced to live up to that contract. So I am claiming that it is foolish for us to run around creating new fisheries agencies and regulations until the federal fisheries take-over issue is completely settled within our courts.
So I guess what I am saying is that I don't see the logbook issue causing a need for a new service board Senator McGuire. I also don't see the guide licensing from ADF&G to Commerce desire causing a need for a new service board Senator McGuire. I also don't see the Bandit Guiding issue causing a need for a new service board Senator McGuire.
I also fail to see the threat of the federal government taking over more of our fisheries causing a need for a new service board Senator McGuire.
Our Alaska Board of Fish created the logbook system, ADF&G handles guide licensing and ourParks and ADF&G have been pretty much done what they can regarding enforcement, given the funds they have to work with. All of these agencies are currently working to keep our fisheries going but Senator McGuire wants to create a new service board to do what?
To make sport fish guides leave the board of fish process and make their allocation requests from their service board?
So the guides make their allocation requests from the service board and commercial fishing takes over the entire Board of Fish process?
Wow, I wonder who sees that one coming?
Like I said before, what really runs sport fish guiding is the agency which has the power to allocate fish to or away from them.
Why would a guide be interested in a new service board which has no power to allocate fish?
Why would the public be interested in getting guides to leave the Board of Fish process thus letting the commercial fishermen
take all the fish away from the publc?
Why would a guide be interested in becoming part of the commerce department when that will not help allocate fish to him?
A guide might be interested in more funds for chasing bandit guides but I am still having trouble understanding how that is going to happen.
Also I am completely against creating new fisheries management agencies just because of these latest illegal moves by the federal government.
So I guess I am still looking for a reason to support SB24
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Add a Commentof any kind to correct? Kenai River sport fish guides are currently required to have half a dozen licenses and another half dozen permits.
These guides are currently watched over by a dozen agencies so why would anyone feel that they need another agency watching those agencies?
SB 24 claims to "promote the health, safety, and welfare of the guided fish angler and the stability of the sport fish guide industry in the state by regulating the activities of provider of sport fishing guide, outfitter, and transportation services."
But nobody can explain how a SFGSB will somehow do any of that. All of these claimed issues are currently handled by current federal, state
and city agencies, so we want to create an agency to watch over those agencies?
I do not see the claimed problems within the sport fish guide industy and I do not see how the creation of a SFGSB would help even if the claimed problems really existed. All of these claimed problems are currently handled by federal, state, borough and city agencies. The truth is that the sport fish guiding industry really does not have all those claimed health, safety, welfare and stability problems.
The truth is that some sport fish user groups do have very large conflicts. These fisheries user groups attempt to create paper work problems for any group other than themselves. These user group conflicts are currently handled by our Alaska Board of Fish.
We don't need to create a SFGSB to watch over our Alaska Board of Fish. We don't need government agencies to watch over government agencies.
I would really love to hear just one person specifically explain how a SFGSB would really fix anything by watching all our other agencies, watch sport fish guides?
What's a SFGSB going to do, say "that's such a good job you did controlling those guides Alaska Board of Fish!" or "that's such a good job you did controlling those guides U.S. Coast Guard!'"
or "that's such a good job you did controlling those guides State of Alaska guide licensing!" or "that's such a good job you did controlling those guides Alaska State Parks!"
or "that's such a good job you did controlling those guides ADF& !" or "that's such a good job you did controlling those guides Alaska DNR!" over and over and over and over...
The current licensing requirement has been law since 2004 and has been working fine. It requires that all guides have CPR/First Aid, USCG license if operating navigable waters, and minimum insurance requirements. The biggest problem most have with this current law is that it requires and annual fee of $100 for which we get nothing more in return then a piece of paper and a sticker for your vessel. They use the remainder to pay for logbooks which guides complete to determine the amount of resource gathered. What's disturbing is that the Feds and the state aren't using this data to show that there is a need to allocate more resource for the private citizen gathering his own fish but instead they are trying to reduce our allocation to support the commercial fishing industry. Look at what's happening in SE AK, a proposed 1 halibut bag limit with a size limit of 37". Commercial fisherman can't even keep a halibut under 32" so the owners of this public resource (Citizens) are left with what's basically the commercial industries "trash" fish.
Alaskan's need to oppose this bill vigorously if they want to maintain any kind of affordable access to their public resource. The free market is the best way to keep cost down and maintain quality services and has been working for decades. There is absolutely no need to change it now with this legislation.